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27 January 2003 @ 03:11 pm
Better to reign in Hell, then serve in Heav’n  
I watched The Prophecy. And... we all remember why, right? Because of this:

"I had a great sex scene with Christopher Walken in The Prophesy and no one started rumours about us. When will people realize that actors act? If we didn't make love scenes believable, we wouldn't be doing our job properly." - Viggo Mortensen.

Well. Either Viggo has a very overactive and interesting imagination, is remembering something that didn't make it to the final cut, has the hots for Christopher Walken (and who doesn't?), or has a very conservative view of sex. Or maybe a very morbid view, which seems more likely. Because Viggo's character (yes, he's Lucifer) has a grand total of, at most, ten minutes on screen. Two of which are spent with Walken. And this is conscious-Walken, by the way. This is their basic exchange:

Gabriel: This war is mine!
Lucifer: Your war is arrogance. That makes it evil. And that's mine.
Gabriel: Lucifer. Sitting in your basement. Sulking about your breakup with the boss. You're nothing.
Lucifer: Time to come home, Gabriel.

And somewhere in there, Viggo licks Walken's face. Then he rips out his heart and drags him off.

Maybe Viggo got a little confused about the penetration aspect...? I dunno. It was sexual, yeah, but not a sex scene. Maybe he got misquoted. Maybe it didn't come out of his mouth quite the right way.

But! He also got a few nice moments with Elias Koteas, who plays the good guy. Vig stalks up, grabs him from behind, puts his mouth right up against this guy's ear, and eventually says:

"Little Tommy Daggett. How I loved listening to your sweet prayers. Then you would hop into bed, afraid that I was hiding under it. And I was!" (and he giggles)

And I think this too... I think he hisses it. He only has three scenes, so it's in there somewhere.

"I love you! I love you more than Jesus!"

And he sings a little too. Very odd.

"I was the first angel, loved once above all others..."
"But like all true love... one day it withered on the vine..."

Oh my. He has a very odd voice. I always expect it to be deeper, and it really isn't. It's not squeaky. It's just not deep, not throaty, not a purr (as fic writers looooove to describe it). It's so weird that I don't even know how to talk about it. I'll figure it out though. Eventually. As that movie, campy and stupid as it kind of was, is fueling my religious mythology crusade.

Did you know that Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible by name? Isaiah 14:12. This is what SAB has to say about it:

"This is the only verse in the bible that mentions Lucifer. Although most Christians consider Lucifer to be Satan (the devil), there is little biblical justification for doing so. In this verse "Lucifer" refers to the king of Babylon (Nebuchadrezzar?) and Lucifer (the light bearer) is also called the "son of the morning" or morning star. The only other person that is referred to in that way is Jesus (Rev.22:16). Does this mean that Lucifer is Jesus?"


EDIT: And I forgot to mention that they use Victoria's "Ave Maria" in that movie, which is the song we're singing in choir (and technically the tune I used for "1 Kings 18", but it isn't obvious). So... EEEE! But it's badly done, because it's sung by kiddies.
Current Mood: confusedconfused
Current Music: "Like A Virgin"- Moulin Rouge
Hyzenthlaybriargate on January 27th, 2003 12:19 pm (UTC)
*cue bout of severe pouting*

That's just not fair. I was looking forward to renting and watching that...
DrWorm: sighdrworm on January 27th, 2003 12:21 pm (UTC)
I'm sorry! *cries* He's very good in it, he and Walken are... but there's no real 'sex scene' and Viggo barely gets any sceen time at all. Though what he does get, he uses very well.

Other than that, it's a pretty dopey movie, I fear.
goddess-to-be (or not to be): elven leafamaterasu on January 27th, 2003 01:46 pm (UTC)
Ok, now I'm intrigued. Every time my father and I talk about Viggo, he brings up The Prophecy, and just how creepy/cool/memorable he was as Lucifer.

DrWorm: squallxlagunadrworm on January 27th, 2003 07:39 pm (UTC)
and just how creepy/cool/memorable he was as Lucifer.

Yeah... I think creepy/cool/memorable just about sums it up. *nods* You should probably see it.
Silversilversolitaire on January 27th, 2003 02:41 pm (UTC)
Ooooh The Prophecy! God, I love that movie... it's just so fascinating for a Unitarian like me! ^_^;

But I agree, Viggo must be majorly confused there... sex scenes my ass... -.-; Unless they really cut it and then I'm going to be pissed.

Thanks for that great summary! I remember when I first watched The Prophecy I had no clue who the hell Viggo was, years ago. And that scene where he touches Tom... God, it turned me so on! O.o;;; I think I need to watch it again! ^_^
DrWorm: squallxlagunadrworm on January 27th, 2003 07:44 pm (UTC)
it's just so fascinating for a Unitarian like me!

And for anyone with a Biblical mythology fetish, I suspect. ^__^ ... I used to go to a Unitarian church. Maaaaaany years ago. I don't even know why I'm mentioning it. But it was one of my few exposures to religion. So, yay!

And that scene where he touches Tom... God, it turned me so on!

Short, sweet, and extremely sexy, yes? Tom's panting like a doggie in heat and Lucifer's just kind of like "Lalala... BOO! Here's what you should do." So pretty. Guh, Viggo. Melting my brain.
Mim: abraguemimine on January 27th, 2003 03:30 pm (UTC)
I'm so renting it! Was it in VHS or DVD? Perhaps there are deleted slashy scenes in the DVD (if there is one)... yeah, yeah, I wish. Viggo and Christopher Walken? *swoon* Got a very funny feeling in my tummy thinking of those two.

But really, from what you tell us, that's hardly a sex scene! Perhaps it felt like more to Viggo because it was with another guy? He should get together with Bill Clinton and discuss what sex is, some day. They would probably have very different opinions.

I was a little apprehensive as to why would Viggo feel the need to talk about rumours, sex scenes and the rest. I was afraid he could have been referring to all that RPS about him. Glad that's not the case.

DrWorm: squallxlagunadrworm on January 27th, 2003 07:37 pm (UTC)
I rented the DVD and there were no special features. Not a one. ;__; No cut scenes. Nada.

I'm starting to think maybe he just thought it was mildly sexual (which it is... there's innuendo there) and it slipped out wrong and... got misinterpreted. But yeah. He's really good in it. Three scenes, but they're all so pretty and creepy. So I just watch them over and over again. After awhile, I got fed up with the rest of the movie... but Viggo! Ah...

And... yeah, that quote taken out of context kinda makes your heart skip a beat. "Ah! What does he know?" kind of thing. But really he's just pissed off because he doesn't want to be blamed for breaking up a relationship. ^___^ That's okay. I could care less about what he and Gwyneth Paltrow did or did not do...

He and Elijah, on the other hand. Or Orlando. Or Sean. Or...