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19 September 2004 @ 09:44 pm
Clarifying the political stance.  
I couldn't help myself. And I'm not terribly sorry about it.

To clear up a few major points:

- I do not like George W. Bush.
- I like John Kerry even less.
- I am a Libertarian.
- I'll most likely be voting for Michael Badnarik.
- If I do vote for him, it will not be a "wasted" vote.
- I don't believe the government should have any say in marriage.
- I have no particular problem with homosexuality. (Duh... the person I like bestest is a gay man.)
- I do not support amending the Constitution to prevent gays from marrying, nor do I support legislation 'legalizing' same-sex marriage. I support taking marriage completely out of the government's hands.

And, most importantly:

- I do NOT need permission from the liberal Democrats of fandom to write, read, or talk about fictional homosexual relationships.

Geez, people.
Current Mood: bitchybitchy
Current Music: "Down with the moral majority cause I wanna be the minority"
yeah, i live on the hellmouth.: red!clarkvichan on September 19th, 2004 07:18 pm (UTC)
I thought of you right after I posted my supremely pessimistic rant that stemmed from bookshop's. (No, I really don't think that the human race will be extinct in 50 years, but it's possible.) I don't like Kerry, but I like Bush even less.

When asked who I'm voting for, I reply 'Kerry' in a dejected tone.

Why am I voting for someone I don't like? I've got a lot of reasons. I won't go into them.

I do NOT need permission from the liberal Democrats of fandom to write, read, or talk about fictional homosexual relationships.
And though I was agreeing with what she said... yeah. You're totally right.

You rock, meh girl. ^_~
DrWorm: balanceddrworm on September 19th, 2004 07:38 pm (UTC)
Phwee, well... I'm glad you aren't mad. :3 I did end up reading those other posts after reading yours. And I always feel a little bit guilty because, you know, I have a pretty good idea of why a lot of people are voting Democrat. And, if that's the way people honestly think is best, I don't have a huge problem with it. I disagree, but... that happens. That's life.

It's the more childish name-calling, mud-slinging, defriending, and witch hunts that seriously make me want to scream (although I've occasionally been guilty of such myself). I know people feel strongly about this subject, but being a drama queen doesn't make things better! Geez, Louise. When people break out the tearful rants, I just don't know what to do. Emotional tactics in politics are so confusing.

You rock, meh girl. ^_~

Thank you. ^^;; Though I half-heartedly want to go comment on all that one chick's stuff just to see whether it really pisses her off or not. *the meanness and spite will eventually pass, I think*
yeah, i live on the hellmouth.: slytherinvichan on September 19th, 2004 07:51 pm (UTC)
Emotional tactics in politics are so confusing.
I get emotional, but I don't try and force my beliefs on others. My emotions usually lead to... that pessimistic rant I wrote.

...childish name-calling, mud-slinging, defriending, and witch hunts...
Yeah. And it's just the people imitating the people they're voting for, pretty much. The politicians are just more polite about it.

You probably already know this, but I wanted Kucinich. GOD, I wanted Kucinich. One candidate who didn't double-talk, and was truthful - and despite the public continuously saying that's what they want (the truth)... he didn't tell the public what they wanted to hear. I don't CARE that he looks like an elf. Bush looks like a monkey, and Kerry looks like a moose.

I've already said I want to go live in a cave, because politics stink stinky butt.

And the random: There's a video at Hollywood Video called 'Beyond Re-Animator.' I'm guessing that's the sequel, but... is it? I really want to see some of this movie/series/whatever-it-is, from hearing of the love you give it. ^_~
Wisecracks: Wisecrackswisecracks on September 19th, 2004 10:19 pm (UTC)
Fuckin' A!
R is for Raygunkleenexwoman on September 19th, 2004 11:12 pm (UTC)
"permission from the liberal Democrats of fandom"
Wish I knew what incident that stems from...

I just read what you posted on wizardsforbush, and while I don't quite agree with everything you posted, I applaud you for posting it.
I know (in some respects) how you feel--I've had a few RL friends who have actually stopped talking to me because of certain political views I hold. (I've learned to just nod and shrug whenever politics are mentioned, now.)
Antonyshikala_uzuki on September 20th, 2004 02:22 pm (UTC)
The one thing I want to question is what you mean by taking marriage completely out of the governmet's hands. What do you think should happen, then? Equal marriage or only het marriage, and for what states? All states, or individual votings?
DrWorm: i candrworm on September 20th, 2004 03:09 pm (UTC)
I support making marriage a completely private affair, meaning anyone would be free to draw up a contract of 'marriage' as they see fit.

People are too used to deferring judgment to the government... and taking away government authority over something it has no reason to be allowed to control just seems like common sense to me, plus it makes the gay marriage debate moot. *shrugs*
L Wilcoxiq2hi4uok on September 25th, 2004 07:37 am (UTC)
Wandered over here from THE post, *wink* and just wanted to take a moment to say that I understand and agree with your view on this particular issue 100%.

Would be nice to have the government completely out of marriage, but since that's unlikely to happen, make 'em all civil unions. Leave the ceremonies to the churches or other religious organization of choice.

We hear a lot about keeping church out of state, but not quite as often do we hear about keeping the state out of church (ie: interference, etc.) Agree? Disagree?

I want to vote for Badnarik - convince me, please? At the same time, I have to admit that some of the rhetoric going around makes me want to vote for Bush just to be contrary, because I don't like being told "if you vote this way you're stupid/evil/insert insult of choice." And I don't like the thought of casting my vote that way.
A Genuine Boy With A Guilty Smileparma_violets on September 22nd, 2004 10:17 am (UTC)
I've been a bit nervous about talking politics with you ever since I (think I may have) posted a disagreeable drunken rant on this LJ somewhere, but I'd like to reaffirm that libertarian conservatives are in fact deeply cool. If the Republicans leant more to the libertarian side, they'd be a better party than the Democrats could ever dream of being.

The chances of the UK Conservative party ever doing this are slim. The last time they were in you had to fill in a set of forms if you wanted to breathe. It was possibly the least deregulated government in any democratic country, and it gladdens my heart to see Tony Blair doing his best to beat that record, oh, how it does...